for the following products
2-[2-[2-Chloro-3-[2-(1,3-d]-hydro-1,1,3-trimethyl-2H-benzo[e]-indole-2-ylidene)-ethylidene]-1-cyclopentene-1-yl]-ethenyl and 2-(2-(2-Chloro-3-(2-(1,1,3-trimethyl-1H-benzo[e]indol-2(3H)-ylidene)ethylidene)cyclopent-1-enyl)vinyl)-1,1,3-trimethyl-1H-benzo[e]indolium 4-methylbenzenesulfonate